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How important do you think Respect among players in a RP community is?

 
Kuolema's picture
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Not important at all. ( after all.. its " just a game" )
5% (1 vote)
Reasonably Important.
0% (0 votes)
Neither important or not important.( Don't care about IC or OOC relationships)
0% (0 votes)
Very Important.
5% (1 vote)
Extremely important to maintain IC and OOC relationships within the community.
90% (18 votes)
Total votes: 20

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Kuolema's picture

I am genuinely curious as to how people feel about respecting each other in and out of character, and just how important that is to you and the people you play with.

Thank you in advance for your answers. :)

Zhu two's picture

I'd say extremely important, after all I want to enjoy the people I play with, even if it is "Just a game" :P

Thank you all for the fantastic learning experience!

Allriae's picture

I agree with Zhu Two, I think it's extremely important and some level of politeness and respect is required.

Kuolema's picture

Ok, so as a side question, do you think it is reasonable for a player to deny another just a moderate amount of respect and then say " I didnt ask for respect and I don't owe him anything".. and  " It's just a game"? Would anyone assume that is a reasonable statment from someone who you are trying to work with on an IC basis through OOC tells so that there is no confusion?

Allriae's picture

My poor English didn't allow me to understand everything sorry, but could you checkif what I get is right?

You're saying that Player 1 has disrespected Player 2 OOC, saying that since he didn't ask for respect he probably can do the same to others as an argument?

Kuolema's picture

No. Player 1 gave player 2 respect, and was then disrespected. And when any attempt at smoothing things over was going on, Player 2 said that " I didnt ask for respect, and I dont owe him anything.... Its just a game"

Allriae's picture

Ahh, I see. Thanks Kuo :)

My opinion to that is: you know what else is a game? Single player games! They're amazing and the NPCs don't ask for respect, you can curse their families, they won't even care ;)

Now seriously, anyone playing this and failing to see that RPG/Roleplay, no matter what kind of midia is, requires a bit of social skills and knowledge on how to handle relationships must learn it fast to stick around.

 

and when I say RPG, I mean.. RPG, and not cRPG (Computer RPG), for that you can just '/pvp' and enjoy.

Zhu two's picture

I think it all falls down to the Golden Rule. we live in a free world, so if you want to be an ass thats your call. I personally wont speak with anyone who has personally shown me abundant disrespect.

Thank you all for the fantastic learning experience!

Engel's picture

Extremely important! I can't imagine any other option winning on a RP community forum.


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Kuolema's picture

Funny that you should say this Engel.. since you are the one who I quoted. I wish people would play the way that they pretend to act.

Engel's picture

 

You took sides. Play the game yourself. No need to make elaborate polls just to call me out. We agreed that we disagree, what is the reason to expand on the topic? If you think everyone will agree with you and put me on some ignore lists after you try to smear my reputation over FERP (how silly is that?) I think they know better and they will draw their own conclusions and put me wherever they want according to their experience.

The really funny thing is that you took sides and claim to be present in a situation that you weren't. I understand taking sides with the clan mate or friend, but this is strictly between Juren (the player) and Engel (the player). Please keep it that way.


EDIT: also you quoted someone else obviously. Here is the whole line you might be refering to:

"To [Kuolema Loyalar] I asked for no respect. I don't owe him anything. AND if I get bashed and threatened OOC  for things doen IC, then... it's wrong. You don't agree?"


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Kuolema's picture

I actually was present.. as I was standing right behind Juren ( the actual RL Player) and looking at his screen. I watched it unfold..  I made the poll to see what everyone's opinion on the subject really is. You are not important enough for me to base an entire poll on. "Smearing" your reputation.. I'm fairly sure that you can do a fine job of that all on your own and need NO help from me.  And it was NOT kept between the two of you when you stand in the street and OOC'ly talk shit about Juren. And yes, he has a screen shot of that as well with not only your name in the chat box, but the chat bubble above your head. You can not claim to keep it private, then blast it all over local chat to other players. Ridiculous.

You can't expect to disrespect someone and have them sit by quietly and not defend themselves.

Engel's picture

It's fairly obvious why you took sides then. But still... you misquoted me for some reason and decided not to address it?

I won't blame you for taking sides with someone you are close with IRL, it makes a lot of sense, and it makes harder to discern what is the game and what is RL. Screenshots that you mention... since both you and me have seen it, why mention it like there is something there that is offending to me?

I asked you to keep this between Juren and me and if you follow this thread.. the only one calling someone out is you? Yet you will probably choose to rebuke it somehow :/
I am doing what I can not to sort this out. I simply won't play with Juren, what is the big deal since it's second time we get into trouble? I will warn people in the scene if he comes along that I don't get his emotes and voice. No need for a bigger drama and I don't actually don't see any, except the thing that you are trying to blow out of proportions.

Please, allow Juren and me to sort it out? No need to involve FERP crowd as a jury, although they are already probably preparing popcorn or something.


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Kuolema's picture

[16:17] To [Brother Engel] He gave you the respect to stay off of your party so that people who had invested time and energy into it could and would be able to enjoy it, and you met him with nothing but hostility.
[16:18] From [Brother Engel] I asked for no respect. I don't owe him anything.

I didnt misquote you at all actually.

And if it was meant to stay between you and Juren, why talk shit to other players about him in the game on an OOC level?

Eeeeveryone talks shit about everyone else, it happens quit bitching about it please, like the whole..Badgers talking shit about Jeassiah on their vent, i know i was in there when they were talkin shit bout her..so swings both ways aye?

Juren Armiteas's picture

No, everyone really doesn't.  But thank you again for displaying your ability to contribute intellectually.

Sarah Gunsmith's picture

Err folks, I'm gonna give everyone the benefit of the fact i've been away and haven't much a clue of what's going on here, but could we all just calm down a bit, grab a bit of fresh air and chill off before we start getting into personal attacks here?

Thanks.

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Saying that is saying you're not human...saying you litterally have never ever spoken bad about someone as they left or are not around...Plus you two already have a bit of a -rap- sheet and not in the good kind.

Juren Armiteas's picture

You are displaying your ability to speak out of your own ass.  This was only my second interaction with Engel, and the first one was accommodating to HIS RP.  Your blanket statement of everyone does x just goes to show your own intellectual shortcomings and willingness to speak without all the facts.

Kuolema's picture

lol a "rap sheet" Thanks for the laughs on that one.

Going around and accusing gerf of rape? and that..*Ticks adds a tally* And now all these posts that seem like whiney bitching

Kuolema's picture

never accused him of that you idiotic ignorant fuck. My story was as such.. Kuo was killed and there were jokes made about raping her corpse.. NEVER.. EVER said shit about Gerf or anyone else raping Kuo. Get your shit straight before you TRY and talk shit.

Kuolema's picture

And matter of fact.. I just verified with Gerf himself in game that KUO never accused him of Rape. Screen shot taken. And with that.. I am done with you for good Fox.

WHY do you PUT caps EVERY single TIME you BITCH at Someone... XD

Juren Armiteas's picture

It's called emphasis.  Read more.

Juren Armiteas's picture

That is enough for me to write your sorry ass off.  I won't and DO NOT have to justify my reasoning for it.  I was going to rant more on this, but frankly, you're not worth the air.

Mmmm.. .sweet hatred..Mmm send me more its so fleshy and Yumm.. mm Mm Mmm

Ardenn's picture

You are now on the Blacklist, Fox. Stop twisting my words around and posting them on FERP.

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*Hisses at Ard* EXCELLENT! Blacklisting for alll!!!

Javier Mendez's picture

just like rl not everyone is gonna get along, i just avoid those i dont get along with *shrugs*

Kuolema's picture

Agreed... but even IRL.. you arent going to just openly disrespect someone who is being respectful of you and not expect to get any kind of reaction. Im just saying.

Javier Mendez's picture

I used to work security in downtown oakland at a private club. it was so hard to yes sir people that you want to slap but its what i was paid to do. I know that there was a few times i was tempted to clock out take my security shirt of and kick the shit outta someone.

 

So yea its hard. But is it worth it to talk to people that frustrate/disrespect you?

 

This is like my 5th time back in FE and whats made me last this time is adding anyone that annoys me to my ignore list. It makes me miss some RP but vs the frustration it brings me interacting with some its worth it imo.

Juren Armiteas's picture

I can totally agree here and in all actuality, it is the hundreds of assholes that you deal with that make you appreciate the ones that are worth the time and effort. 

I also really strive to not put anyone on my ignore list unless they are a habitual spammer.  I can ignore bad rp just fine without a game mechanic.

Ardenn's picture

Those who comment "Its just a game" Basically havnt committed anything to the game they are playing and can leave at any time with no consequences for their end of things. When you spend more than 3 months into a game, especially if your the type to log in every day, run events, or play specifically for the ROLEPLAY and not for the engine or the pvp, its most likely MORE than a game to you. I typically find the people that say this are weekend players or only play once or twice a week. I will typically leave these types of players alone since I take my play as seriously as I take my work.

As much as I HATE people talking to me OOC, I generally make an effort to do a little communciation with anyone that wants to talk for a bit. I could do without the drama and whining about this player or that player (because more often than not I will put my neck out and try to fix the problem or ease tension between two players so it doesnt explode in RP later), but I will acknowledge that its ncie to know simple things like where a players limits are and weather or not they mind being shot in the head when I have the opportunity to do so (Surprisingly, only one person ever said no).

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Sarah Gunsmith's picture

I feel this needs an echo. Maintaining good OOC relationships is essential to a good RP experience. So much drama can be avoided if you do you best to maintain good OOC relations despite IC conflicts.

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Danny McKillop's picture

To be honest i like Respect. I have bean brought up to do nothing but know and show respect, if you dont know respect in my country that means youll be on a one way trip to be gettin your kneecaps done in are people just full stop hatein ya. I respect people alot, and get offended when i show someone respect i get crap back. Sure i dont expect someone to like me but its the fact that thay can atleast just adknowlage what one has done for them are trying to do and if thay dont wish to be freinds in a such there is a such thing as just sayin a few words.

Sometimes i think people forget how to be wellmannerd. If i ever get a problem OOC and i will say "Hay, i think-" and express my opinion are sometimes i just say "K" and go along with it becuse its not all that importent.  Half the time i have done this i ended up getting abuse thrown back at me even know, hang on here one min. I didnt ask for any fucking abuse. 

SO YES! Respect is a importent thing! its a good thing to have. 

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Agression's picture

I don't really get the purpose of that poll but to bring out some stuff like what just went written between Engel and Kuo.

I give this poll a 2/10, and do not vote.

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Kuolema's picture

Was not the reason for the Poll.. but I am not the kind of person to let someone bullshit other people and claim that they want respect, but act and blatantly say something otherwise.

Petyr's picture

Think this is a heavily one-sided poll. Meant to only inflate certain egos. *goes back to Uncaring Land*

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Juren Armiteas's picture

Another ignored country heard from.

Kuolema's picture

Not even kind of sorry that you feel that way. I wanted to get a general idea of who Truly feels that respect is an important ingredient to the RP community.  The reason that I really wanted to know is that people will spout all day long about respect, but then they themselves live by different standards, and that is really and truly bullshit.

Juren Armiteas's picture

Forever and a day this ^^.

Sarah Gunsmith's picture

Ok folks, one more warning: please keep the thread onto the topic it was created for and lay off the personal attacks, please.

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Sarah Gunsmith's picture

This topic has gotten out of hand. Moved to Moderators Forum for now.

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Juren Armiteas's picture

Just saw this and I apologize.  I will not comment any further on this thread.



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