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[Dreamtime/Telepath Poll] Plot? (Read details in first comment)

 
Ardenn's picture
End it quickly.
50% (20 votes)
Let it play out.
28% (11 votes)
Let it run indefinatly in the background.
23% (9 votes)
Total votes: 40

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Ardenn's picture

The Dreamtime plot was largely inspired by a small group of RPers I've gotten really close to, since they all worked so hard to bring me back after I quit for a couple months. I wont go into all the details but since it started with the original Five, it has now blossomed into more than Thirty player characters being affected or changing the path of the story in some way. There were a lot more people than I was anticipating interested in a Telepathic Journey and Discovery process as well as defining sub-rules to make Telepathic RP fun for both sides. Due to such wide spread interest, I went from updating once every other day to once a week so all the interested writers and RPers could have some time to interact with one another and look for clues left by the mental entities carving away at their sanity. (The use of 'Demons' was not meant to refer to supernatural/fantasy creatures, but the All-Mind rogues using peoples own fears and aspirations against them.)

However, I was also basically treating it like a Filler Arc since there werent a lot of things going on that anyone could get into at the time. Thats been changing a lot in the past few weeks from the discussions going on. So I bring up the question; Should I keep the plot running and keep adding more and more horror elements until someone finally figures out how to beat the fuckers? Should I be overly pushy with information and forcefully guide the players to the solution and end it? Or should I just set it on the back burner and refine the 'Dreamers' Telepathic rules and just leave it skulking around in the back of peoples minds to prey on the unwary when RP times are slow?

If you are new and just looking into things, the Dreamtime plot is largely based around a telepathic virus thats attacking people in their dreams and expanding their abilities... or destroying their sanity. I can be messaged over FERP or in game for more details.

This poll will be open for one week.

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Allriae's picture

First I must apologise to Ardenn. At first I wasn't tracking the plot since I was busy with other things. Later, my ignorance towards the game lore made me think it was Daemons and such kind of fantasy indeed. I had a precipitated judgement and got irritated with it. Many times I've joked with another player asking to end it.

To all players that worked in it and specially to Ardenn: I'm  truly sorry, I was an ass and I reckon it.

 

But if my opinion still has any value in all this (if it had any value before anyway), I'd say "Let it run" and when players think it's the right moment to stop, it'll eventually be in the background, sticked with the IC lore of events or small reactions here and there, but that's my opinion and I've been affected by it only recently. Well... not that recently, since I need Dorado D: but directly: yes.

 

and once more, I beg your pardon for my ignorance.

Ardenn's picture

There were actually a couple people I recently saw reffering to it as Fantasy Demons. I'd never used the term before but Ir ealized the players were picking names for their avatars that kind of leaned int hat direction probably wasnt helping (Such as Belail, Seraphim, Anansi all being supernatural deities from stories, etc) ... So no worries in the long run. I may not be PERFECT witht he lore, but I do make an effort to stay within the limits of the genre.

That said, theres still plenty of Fantasy elements in Dreamtime since much of the actual plot itself is happening inside the character's heads and theres been a lot of differing explinations as to what each persons mind looks and feels like to themselves. This has been rpetty itnentional, as a way to allow people to act a little outside of their normal charactarizations without completely breaking the genre.

Its more like taking too many shrooms than magic though. :)

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Allriae's picture

Indeed, I only could see that clearly after a recent RP I had with Canni, and since telepathy got wiped off the game mechanics before I could play it, I didn't even know it was possible or it was actually in the game lore.

 

But anyway, it's not an excuse for the way I've behaved. *hands Ardenn a whip*

Ramon Cain's picture

Wow this plot has been running for so long now. I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, either by lack of knowledge or just because it's not attractive to them. BUT as an outside guy not involved in the plot I feel I have no right to vote. Have fun guys, buy storm, let me kidnap you.

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Ardenn's picture

From poll results, I'll post a final Stage 6 in a day or two, it'll take a few hours to write and we'll see how the players cap off the final week.

Thanks for the people who participated.

For those of you with permenant changes; I'm still open to discussion regarding the Dreamtime Telepathy "Guidelines" and I'll try to answer any questions. Some of you had more than I expected. :)

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((The problem I had with this whole thing...is outside forces "deciding" who has telepathy and who doesn't. To me..it sounds like an elitest way to Godmode/Metagame. And that is how it was presented to me. I personally....have not dealt with telepaths since the BS back when there was vampires and werewolves. I will ignore it for the most part because I am police in-game...not the rp police....and neither is anyone else here. Not to mention...."telepathy" was removed from the game as a mutation. However, I understand there are those people that want to have the "force". The other problem I have with this plot is...the outside force again....deciding that ways to beat it are bullshit when the ways are "lore appropriate". Just because it doesn't end the way you want....doesn't mean it can't end. IMO

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Ardenn's picture

(( Eh, it was pretty badlt managed this time, I didnt have the same support network I did with the Plague, and at some point I actually ran out of ideas because it went way beyond where Iw as trying to get it to go. That is to say, I was anticipating people crushing/destroying the outside threat quickly instead of letting it fester. Just about every RP I've seen up until now has had the 'outside forces' wiped out pretty quickly. That didnt happen. Either I was too subtle or my attempts at direction made absolutely no sense.

If nothing else, it got more people who normally avoided quests to actually hunt down the All Mind quest chains and read the lore to find out all the stupid shit I had wrong :P ))

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Tbh, it got out of control when the whole stupid 'Demons' tag was placed on it. Your a bloody long time Roleplayer, and it falls on your shoulders to keep stuff like this away from the main game (not exactly saying RPers should stick to the lore like it was Dogma. But trying to say its somrwhat your fault for not jumping out sooner when it started to first pop up and explain the difference between a demon and your 'demon').

On a more brighter note, sorry for being an asshole about it and I'm with Ramon Cain. Except the buying storm and kidnapping lol

 

That's just my input and if you forgive the assholeness, you do. Otherwise, you know...

*Middle Finger*

Ardenn's picture

I hadnt actually understood at first that people calling it "Demon" thought Iw as usign the fantasy sense. Its only when it came up several times did I realize what was going on. Thanks for the input though.

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Canni Belle's picture

I voted let it play out because some of us have been putting alot into it and have been plottin a few yet to be done details.  Personally i have enjoyed it and hopefully not godmodded the kids telepathy on anyone .. i was always careful to give the option to ignore/not hear and respected immunities. 

It opened up alot of very enjoyable rp, personally I would not mind it running in the back ground but not if others find it disrupting.  

I am thankful for being given the opportunity to delve into another side of canni .. something deeper. 

One minute your calm, the next your shooting someone in the face, then your doing your chickendance. If that is not chaos I dont know what is - Aiid

Ardenn's picture

I figure we'll purify Canni of Bruno's presence and we can run our telepath RP in private with the remaining players interested in honing their skills. It was fun for a while, but I had been worried from the beginning about it ballooning out and potentially trampling other players RP. It was nice to do something that wasnt 100% violence oriented for a change.

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Juren Armiteas's picture

As a relatively new player, and I may be completely off-base here, it looks as if you are trying to dictate who has telepathy and who doesn't.  I haven't seen telepathy as a choice for any clone to have, but I did hear that it used to exist, which was an oversight by the game's developers IMO when it comes to RP.  I am a LOOOOONG time RPer, DM/GM, whatever you want to call it and telepathy has ALWAYS been taboo.  Just my 2 cents.  If I am wrong about your intention, please correct me.

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Who had it and who didnt was 100% left up to the player who wanted to join the plot. The people who got "Possessed" actually had nothing to do with how they were 'gaining telepathy'. Potentially the ENTIRE CANYON would have been exposed and opened up to gaining telepathy, it just so happened a really large majority said "No thanks." and those people I made an effort to leave alone. I had been building up a list of people who were cool with it and those who werent so we could restrict the RP completely to players who wanted to do it and leave everyone else to their own mechanization. However the further the plot went, the more diluted it got and the people who were signing up werent passing on the rules I was setting to keep people from overextending their abilities.

It got worse when I started falling behind on updates when IRL started interfering. There was also some OOC drama that remvoed several key players fromt he plot for weeks at a time which caused even more chaos (like when Dorado got sick and the next RP segment revovled on him beign avalible)...

I suppose I learned things, again. I have done a lot of GMing before but its usually for a team of 3-4, not 30. Im openly admitting to doing a bad job on this one, but I have to state that some players _DID_ go above and beyond abusing it, as well as some players going beyond the limits to try and help others keep it fair and interesting for anyone they came across.

Canni Belle, Dorado and Max Torque were the three people who worked the hardest to try and keep things as fair as possible for anyone who got involved and put out the most effort to balance their activities and pull out whenever anyone got uspet about what was going on. Jeassiah learned a lot from the RP and how to address people and enjoyed the chance to develop her character more. Reavy brought me interesting questions and concerns I hadnt thought of before. Even the Badgers had their say in helping me determine where the problem points were.

.... The people I cannot name, however, the people outside the origional 12 who I started this story path with, I cant entirely claim responsibility for because they basically stopped talking to me once they got the basic information on what was going on. I literally have no idea whos claiming involvement and who isnt at this point.

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(( I uhmm pulled out early (giggles) mostly because I hit a bit of a dropout from RP when the plot was starting. Just got caught up in other things not RP related and by the time I got back it was, to me atleast, too late to hop in. I have rped with other members of the plot but not exhibiting any of the symptoms. Sorry I just missed out on this one. ))

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Canni Belle's picture

Canni is already free of Bruno and has been thinking about how to get Dorado back, guess that doesnt matter now.  

Just as an fyi ... i am the person who decided to let canni obtain telepathy .. no one else.  My choice to have it increase temporarily with blindness, if anyone found her actions objectionable from a rp standpoint they have my deepest apologies. 

What I do not apologize for is being included in a rp with telepathy which i have seen done exquisitely by those i asked for guidence from and while yes .. no longer a game mechanic continues to exist strongly in quests and lore. 

Canni will return to what she was when she clones .. gone will be all traces of if although i had originally planned to have her keep it on a very low scale. She will go back to doing the same old things in the same old ways...or .... just vanish like clones often do.  Perhaps shes simply played out and I am trying to cling to the most memorable character I've ever portrayed. 

I have to admit all the bickering has left me a bit heart heavy, not pointing fingers or casting blame .. shit happens. 

One minute your calm, the next your shooting someone in the face, then your doing your chickendance. If that is not chaos I dont know what is - Aiid

Danny McKillop's picture

I say just let it run in the background. I find it good becuse it sparks up Rp abit and not just keeps it all the same. Allthough it would be nice to end it and do something new just so your not bored and end up quiting agean but eh, if you like it Ardenn i sepouse there is no need for change.

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Ardenn's picture

Thanks for your feedback, man. I appreciate the words from the people who were outside the RP. There are a few players who willr etaint he skills but they likely wont be particularly public save for the people who participated from the start who sat there with me and tried to define rules to prevent godmoding.

Those rules still need to be tweaked and refined. Godmoding tools were never my intent but I do have some things to think about.

I am about to break from the game for a while though, FFXIV launched and just abotu everyone I know from before the FE community is flocking to it and are calling for their old officers to come home. :P

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Correct me if i am wrong but isnt FFXIV being done by Sqaure Enix? If so it will be a good game.

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Ardenn's picture

The Login servers are being hammered, they had to suspend selling more copies of the game until they added more servers. I might post a link to some screenshots later, but I dont want to clutter FERP with info related to other games.

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Reavy's picture

Voted to let it play out. Shifted pretty much 90% of Reavy's effort to get info, allies, resources and prepare for attack. But catching up with people in different timezones makes it sometimes difficult to progress. But i think that "Black Eyes" opposition is not that far from stopping the threat (of course if my IC theory is not wrong and i'm not on a huge goose chase). Just...would like to have the end as result of player actions more than getting "way ho to deal with it" served on a silver plate

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Ardenn's picture

Im working ont he final stage so y'all can deal with ti and seeding clues with a couple people who were setup as a backup in the vent the playe efforts failed (IE; if the players ignroed the dreams entierly as well as the crazy people who need to be 'cleansed'. Theres actually two other sidelines I had planned out with other players to add some spice to the story that were eliminated due to how the players acted to certian new peices of information.)

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Canni Belle's picture

 "Just...would like to have the end as result of player actions more than getting "way ho to deal with it" served on a silver plate"

^^ This, I would personally like to see the few of us truly wanting to do this get together so those tired of the entire plot can back off and do not feel like they are being dragged unwillingly along anymore.  I too would like to see it to the end based on what we do.

One minute your calm, the next your shooting someone in the face, then your doing your chickendance. If that is not chaos I dont know what is - Aiid

Ardenn's picture

When I make my posts, Im going to add a link to the movie that inspired the telepathy story and what I was trying to draw from. I havnt seen Agression around in forever so I doubt we'll be able to do the movie night I was planning.

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Allriae's picture

Unfortunately, I think Agression left FE. Can't say it's for ever but at least he might be taking a break.

If I may give you a suggestion, it'd be what Canni and Reavy said: let only those who are willing to finish the plot to do so, maybe if necessary even make a call here in FERP.

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Yeah, there were three other people itnerested in joining but att he current state its in, as much as IW anted their input, Im going to nix the invitation and just let it end on its own.

Still writing the closers.

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